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Hosted by Rene' Jones and Robert Casinover — real talk about plumbing, warehousing, logistics, and the blue-collar industries that quietly build real wealth.

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Pipe Dreams to Profits

Built for the Trades. Built for Real Business.

Pipe Dreams to Profits dives into plumbing, warehousing, logistics, and blue-collar industries that quietly build real wealth. Whether you're a plumber scaling your operation, a distributor navigating supply chains, or an entrepreneur eyeing the trades — this show gives you the real playbook. From tech disruption to ownership strategies, we cover what actually moves the needle.

Plumbing & Trades
Real strategies for scaling trade businesses and operations.
Distribution & Logistics
Navigating supply chains, warehousing, and wholesale distribution.
Business Scaling
From startup to enterprise — the playbook for sustainable growth.
Ownership & Wealth
Building lasting wealth through ownership in blue-collar industries.

Meet the Voices Behind the Show

Two industry insiders bringing real-world experience from finance, tech, and the trades to every conversation.

Robert Casinover
Robert Casinover
Co-Founder, The Build

Robert Casinover has built a career doing what most people never attempt — bridging the gap between high-level corporate finance and the boots-on-the-ground world of the trades. After over a decade of financial leadership at powerhouse organizations including PwC, IBM, A+E Networks, and Interbrand, Robert made a bold pivot and co-founded The Build in January 2020, a technology platform purpose-built for General Contractors, Plumbers, Electricians, Masons, and DIYers.

Armed with an MBA in Finance from Long Island University and a background in FP&A, business operations, and strategic growth, Robert brings a rare Wall Street mindset to an industry that has long been underserved by both technology and financial sophistication. His experience completing the Newchip Accelerator program further sharpened his edge as a startup founder navigating one of the most complex and resilient sectors in the economy.

On Pipe Dreams to Profits, Robert channels his unique blend of corporate financial acumen and trades industry insight to help business owners think bigger, operate smarter, and build companies that last. He's proof that the trades aren't just a career path — they're a serious business opportunity.

Rene' Jones
Rene' Jones
Trades Industry Veteran

Rene Jones is a seasoned veteran of the plumbing, wholesale distribution, and supply chain industries — and one of the most passionate voices in the trades today. With deep operational knowledge spanning plumbing distribution, warehousing, and logistics, Rene has spent his career at the intersection of where real work gets done and real money gets made.

Rene brings an insider's perspective to every conversation, whether that's breaking down the shift from traditional distribution models to online channels, unpacking workforce challenges, or helping trade business owners think more strategically about scaling. He's not just talking theory — he's lived the day-to-day realities of the blue-collar world and understands what it actually takes to run and grow a trades-based business.

On Pipe Dreams to Profits, Rene's mission is simple: elevate the trades. He's committed to helping plumbers, distributors, warehouse operators, and contractors embrace modern technology and smarter business practices — without losing the grit and craftsmanship that make this industry great.

Catch Up on the Conversation

Real talk about the trades, tech, and building businesses that last. New episodes drop regularly.

Can Small Plumbing Distributors Compete Online? (Ecommerce, Tech & the Future)
37m 46s

Can Small Plumbing Distributors Compete Online? (Ecommerce, Tech & the Future)

04/16/2026 · 37m 46s
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Speaking Engagements

Bring Robert & Rene' to Your Stage

Robert Casinover and Rene' Jones are available for speaking engagements at trade businesses, industry conferences, and corporate events. Their talks focus on practical strategies for leveraging warehouse technology and project management tools to increase profitability.

Whether it's a keynote, workshop, or panel discussion, Robert and Rene' deliver actionable insights that your team can implement immediately — no fluff, no theory, just real-world strategies that move the bottom line.

  • Integrating warehouse technology to streamline operations and cut costs
  • Leveraging project management tools for better job tracking and profitability
  • Scaling a trades business without sacrificing quality or margins
  • Bridging the gap between traditional trades and modern tech solutions
  • Building real wealth in blue-collar industries
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What to Expect

Engaging, story-driven talks packed with real examples from the field. Robert and Rene' don't do death-by-PowerPoint — they bring the energy of the trades floor to the conference stage, leaving audiences with strategies they can implement the next day.

Be a Guest on the Show

Got a story about building in the trades? Scaling a distribution business? Disrupting blue-collar industries with tech? We want to hear from you.

We're looking for operators, founders, and industry veterans who can share real insights — not theories.

  • Share your expertise with a growing audience
  • Connect with other industry leaders
  • Get featured across our social channels
  • Help shape the future of the trades
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